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Introduction and Welcome
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Hello everybody. Welcome back to the UFFDA! Podcast. I'm Jordan Rudolph. And
I'm Emily Morris.
Understanding Results and Expectations
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We're happy to be back with you as always for season four, episode 41, and we are continuing the how to make sure we're getting results theme that [00:01:00] we have touched base on a little bit more specifically again last week.
So if you need to learn how to maintain results and what the art is of maintaining results. Make sure you check out last week's episode, but this week we're, we're talking about are you surprised by your results?
Right. Uh, with any outcome or goal, we kind of get to the end of maybe an expected timeline or an event or some ending.
Of a pursuit of work, right? Whether that be a phase when we're thinking programming or whether that be a longer term, again, have an event or a race on the calendar and we have some metric or REM measurement and it yields results, right? We talked about this last week a little bit more from a process side, but the, they we're talking today more about like, what does the end look like?
And asking the question as we go through, are you. Surprised by these results based on [00:02:00] how your phase period of work, training program, based on how all of that was going, your perception of that, if you will.
Factors Affecting Performance
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I think a lot of times there's, um, how do I wanna say this nicely, where when we're looking for a form of results or looking for a specific measure.
And that could mean something like where we have this fancy dancy scale that's we're looking at right now as the time of recording this podcast, like we do almost every podcast, we have an $8,000 scale, five feet from us, and it shows body, compositionally, everything going on inside your body. So when we're losing weight or gaining weight, it shows us if we're losing muscle, building muscle, losing fat, gaining fat, water, weight, proteins in the body, mineral density, blah, blah, blah.
And it also shows us where it's pretty cool. But if we're doing something like an athletic event, like let's say we're testing out for something like at the time of this recording, just a couple short [00:03:00] weeks ago, the NFL combine was out there where athletes were measuring their 40 yard dash, their bench presses, their vertical jumps, all of these different things.
They were spec, they were getting prepared for a specific day to just do these tests or specific to two to three days depending. Or if we're doing some sort of result based metric measure or remeasure assessment off of something like a, a strength exercise, whatever, it's insert all of these. But I'm, I'm, I'm getting to the point here of that a lot of times when things don't go as planned or when things don't go as maybe what the person or the coach wanted them to.
This is where this question comes up a lot of, were you surprised by the results? And oftentimes there's an expectation that was unfair or unrealistic set most often by the client, the person, not the coach, the trainer. [00:04:00] Usually that's there. So we view as, view it as it's the coach's job, the trainer's job, to make sure that they're helping set realistic expectations.
To clear that perception, to understand what it is, and the better the coach, the better this is communicated and visualized and explained. The other part of this then is the person might not recognize the under and understand the value of everything that goes into a certain thing that they're testing for that day.
Body composition. 40 yard dash vertical jump, bench press, whatever it is, they don't understand or they're not fully clearly accepting of all of the things that's going on in that person's life can affect everything that they do in that certain day. So when we're testing for a bench press, we're not considering the variables of, well, your shit, your sleep's been shit the last few weeks.
Your kids have been running around [00:05:00] all over. You've had a sick kid at home. You've had a very stressful job, you've had a little rough relationship with your significant other or somebody that's close to you. You've been running on fumes, you've not been eating as well as you should. You've been eating crap food.
You had crap food the night before. All of those things, every single part of it leads up to, and also, I'm not gonna, uh, I can't forget like what you believe you can do, the thought process, your mindset, all those things lead into that certain specific day. That certain specific moment. So when I say we're talking people off the bridge, bringing this back full circle, long story, long.
Oftentimes it's because of expectations and they weren't communicated clearly or realistically and or the person doesn't stand. Understand everything that went into that given moment of our, of our test, our retest or assessment, whatever it's.
Uh, absolutely.
Realistic vs Idealistic Goals
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When you were talking about expectations, it in my mind immediately went towards like, when I find talking to people about more realistic [00:06:00] expectations, everybody wants to think.
Maybe not everybody. A lot of people want to think idealistically. So when every condition is ideal, what do we expect to happen? Right now goes into the second board of what Jordan was just talking about. Every condition is never ideal, ever. Right? Like, there's always gonna be things that we don't plan for.
The unknowns that pop up the unexpected, you know, poor night of sleep, the unexpected holiday, whatever.
I'm gonna, can you remember what you just said right there? My mind went to a second because you said Poor knight.
Yeah. And
it came off as porn.
Oh, poor. POOR.
Yeah. Yeah. I got it now. But at first for, for a split second, I'm like, why are we talking about porn?
No.
Poor night. Yeah.
Poor night of sleep. Uh. So as we go into those, sorry. Now, now I have to remember what I was just talking about, um, as we go into [00:07:00] goal setting and expectations around that, expectations around the time that it will take expectations around what is realistic, it can be important and is important to note.
What is idealistic versus realistic and making sure that we're speaking and communicating and setting goals based on the realistic timeline versus the idealistic timeline. If the idealistic expectation happens amazing, right? Like we're shooting under and we, we overdeliver, um, awesome. Like, why not? Like still celebrate still incredible, but when we stake it on.
That idealistic timeline, we stake it on the ideal part of that. We often forego some of the realist, and when they happen, it can be a like emotional reaction of like, oh my gosh, like forgetting about again, all the things that go into it or, and excuse me, forgetting about all the things that [00:08:00] go into it.
And only focusing on the lack of results or the lack of outcome that we wanted to see. So it can be even more challenging to kind of flip that on the other way as well.
For sure. And last week through the, the how to maintain results, we, we talked about this from a little bit of a different angle, like going into that part of it.
So when we think about this time, it's, it's the idealistic versus the realistic. Um, and we get to those, those points, those checkpoints, those end goals, those deadlines, those predetermined or those dates that are determined for us, uh, of this expected result when the person gets to there and they're a little bit too idealistic or maybe they're not being fair to themself on the, on that side of it, uh, this is when like even when they achieve said goal, the goal post is already moved.
They're never as happy. As they want to be with the results that are shown there, whether they are [00:09:00] idealistic or realistic.
Mm-hmm.
Unexpected Benefits of Achieving Goals
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So maybe there's more to health and fitness than just what this comes out to be in terms of results. Maybe we have to make sure that people are thinking about how much better their life is improved and the quality of life there is when they're getting results.
Like if somebody's looking towards a body composition goal, meaning that they're preserving or building lean muscle tissue. And burning off fat and, and, and bad weight in the body. If they get to 5, 10, 15, 20 pounds down, we hope that we're also including, and sometimes I feel like we're injecting other measures of, uh, metrics for them to realize like how much better things are.
Mm-hmm. It's, it's kind of one of those things, like you got your results, but what surprised you? I didn't realize like how much happier I would be. I didn't realize how much better. Uh, my family life would be, I didn't realize how much better my relationship with myself would be, or my significant other, or I didn't realize how much better I, in, in my, and how much better I'd be in [00:10:00] my profession and my job and my career, my passion, uh, and how many less sick days I've had and how much more inspiration, how much more of an inspiration I've been for those around me.
Mm-hmm. Like those are the things, right? And they realize all the things that comes with it. It's not just about that scale. It's not just about what we did in the bench press, but if we wanna take it to a performance goal, and we want to go back to these combine athletes that just did this for the NFL that are about to get drafted in the next few weeks.
If they performed really well in there, they might have moved up from a third or fourth round that's been on the radar to the second or first. That's millions of dollars a year that do this millions. And that's just the start. That's just their first four or five year contract, that's their rookie deal.
And all of that leads up to it. There's a little bit more expectation, a little bit more pressure, but that might be what they want. But what they've done is it could dramatically improve their quality of life because of their performance. It's not just about them dropping a half a second on their 40 or getting eight more reps in their 2 25 bench press.
There's other metrics to [00:11:00] this. Mm-hmm. And that's where we can encourage people to think beyond this part of it. And were you surprised by the results coming back to this whole thing, when we open the door and really have somebody look at all of those different things that have been going on or what's been affecting or what could affect their results, we look at it from like, are you surprised?
If somebody doesn't know all of those things? We don't really acknowledge 'em right away until, unless the person needs to, like they feel like they're on the edge. Right? We need to bring it back to light because oftentimes, again, as a good coach or trainer that I feel like we are. It's 'cause we are, we're asking these questions from a day-to-day basis and getting a, an understanding of where the person's at.
'cause we know if the person's coming in super, super, super stressed or lack of sleep, whatever it is, we know that we need to have that conversation with them enough for them to understand their body and what's at stake.
Mm-hmm.
We're always thinking long term, but we're acknowledging the short term.
For sure.
Client Stories and Practical Advice
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Well, and that's where, as the client in the situation, [00:12:00] it can be easy to kind of overlook and focus on the things that maybe aren't happening or maybe the one big thing that you want to see happen. But there are a lot of those surprises along the way, like I had. Three people come up to me today and tell me they went for their blood work annual, like physical, annual blood work, and the boots
were sore more than their hamstrings.
Well, that was just one person, but we can make it more. No, that we had three people come in today and say they went for their annual checkup and all of their numbers were better on their blood work. One lady came in and her doctor actually acknowledged like. Oh wait, are you like, have you lost weight?
Like we haven't weighed you today. She didn't need to, but she's in our nutrition thing right now and she acknowledged like how cool it was to have the doctor like recognize from about a month ago, month and a half ago, like, we might need to get some REM measurements done. Like your measurements have changed.
So it's so cool when those little things happen outside of necessarily the gym and [00:13:00] even outside of that, of, Hey, I noticed that I cleaned my house for two hours and I didn't notice I wasn't sore. I noticed I carried a heavy box and I didn't even think twice about lifting that amount of things. Like I just did it.
I didn't even think about it. Or someone offered me to help and I didn't need to say yes, like I just could do it myself. So it's all those little things that. You'd find yourself noticing or saying yes to or accepting that you might not have done before and without recognizing that you wouldn't have done that before, without that opportunity to step back and be like, oh, what else has changed?
It can be easy to kind of focus, either focus on the negative or focus on whatever the singular outcome that you're measuring your success by is. Well,
and that's again, coming back to a little bit of what we've been told or what the mindset is of that person. Like they decided somewhere to be true. So they've been focusing on the lack of their possibility rather than focusing on the potential of what they could do.
Mm-hmm.
Right. And, and that all plays a role. So when we have somebody step on the scale and they [00:14:00] weigh in, oftentimes the, the reason this topic came up is, 'cause one of the questions I've been using for people lately is, what do you think we're gonna see? Usually if we're working on body composition with somebody, we're, we're pretty heavily involved and focused on what they're doing outside of the gym rather than what's going on inside of the gym.
Okay. That's, that's typically the thing that we have to make sure we're measuring most. So when we're doing a weigh in, I'm gonna ask, how do you think this is gonna go? Or are we surprised by these results? And we throw it back in a nice way on them and we have them make sure that they're interpreting it.
Because if it comes back not to the extent that we wanna see, then they only, it's not saying that they only have themselves the blame, but they have to look at it from a different viewpoint of all of this.
Mm-hmm.
And that's also when we get good results. Like are we surprised by these? Oftentimes by how the conversation of the client has been going leading up to a certain day, whether it's a test out, a weigh in, whatever it is, or [00:15:00] if we've got some data to measure it from, again, their strength training program, or if we're doing food logs, whatever it is, we oftentimes will know what the results will be.
Mm-hmm.
And we're not surprised either.
Right?
When we are surprised. Then we have to ask some more questions and dive in and ask, like, and also figuring out, like, sometimes we're surprised in a good way.
Mm-hmm.
Like, Hey, what else have you been doing? Like, what else is going on here?
Mm-hmm.
But ultimately it comes back to you, like, are you really surprised by these results?
Mm-hmm.
Well, it puts the control back in your, in your court now, right? A hundred percent. Not only like, yes, if it's a. Like not the outcome we wanted to see, or if it is the outcome we wanted to see. Either way that gives the control back to you. You can continue doing the same thing that you have been doing.
If those are, you want to continue to see the same results that you have been seeing, and you can identify exactly what has been happening and what has been working so we can repeat it. Or if it's not okay, cool. What needs to [00:16:00] change? Awesome. Changing those things. We remeasure in X amount of time and we see where we're at there.
So either way, the control and the power goes back to you in a good way because that means you have the ability to either change or continue as you see fit.
Consistency and Adjustments
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100%. And, and just a little note on like the repeat. If it, if it's working, like don't try to fix something if it's not broken. Yeah. Like hit repeat.
Ride the wave. Keep going on the wave. And by the way. You need to be consistent to have repeatable or riding the wave. If you're repeating yourself by not being consistent or just being unrepeatable, that's not what we're talking about. But oftentimes people go like three weeks into something and they're like, oh, I should have been way faster than this.
I should have been way better than this. I should have been down way more than this. And they get pissy and they go do something else, and then they blame whoever else they want to, in that scenario, accept themselves of just staying consistent. Sometimes you just need a little bit of time to see things through.
[00:17:00] Usually three weeks is kind of like that trigger week. Mm-hmm. Get to that fourth week and then tell us how we're doing and let's look and identify to make sure we're not leaving any stone unturned. That's kind of that part about repeating, like, you don't need to add something else right away if it's not working.
But I have a guy right now, for example, he's down, he was down eight pounds in about three and a half weeks. Now he's down nine and a half pounds in almost five weeks. We, we, we we're slowing down.
Mm-hmm.
A little bit more travel on his end hasn't been as consistent with his nutrition, but now he's dialing back in, getting going and I'm like, how are your steps doing?
He goes, oh, it's not a lot. Okay, all I want you to do is go back to what we were doing, but eating a little bit earlier. Make sure it's protein filled in the morning. Don't wait for hours before you eat. I want him to eat sooner and we're tracking steps. And then once we get a step tracking, then I'm gonna give him a step goal.
But now at least he knows what I'm kind of looking for. I promise you he's gonna be stepping more. Right. So we repeated, repeated, repeated until we started getting good results. And when it started to slow down, now we add.
Mm-hmm.
Now we go.
[00:18:00] Right. Well, it gives you the roadmap. Right. And then we know both as the coach to know, okay, what needs to be added?
What needs to be changed? Or as the client, what do I need to add? What do I need to change? No one's then surprised. Or if we are surprised, we might be surprised in a good way by some of those unexpected things.
Correct. And I told him if he does all of those things when we weigh in in two weeks and then weigh in in four weeks or six weeks.
I am not gonna be surprised if he's down another five to 10 pounds. Mm-hmm. If he does all those things change, nothing else. Keeps everything the same, told him, I'm not gonna be surprised one bit. This is what I expect actually.
Right, right.
Conclusion and Farewell
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I think that about sums it up.
I think so,
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